A nice, honest and relevant review and wake-up call

and about the problems being googleable in another language, it’s only because we participate here that we are introduced to those quality problems. Because anyway we wouldn’t have solved those questions since they are in a different language, I don’t find anything wrong in this? What’s the problem until you’re learning new concepts every month?

well, I do agree on the 6th point though :stuck_out_tongue:

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Thanks for your views @swetankmodi .

So, according to you, copying questions exactly from another author, who was creative and hardworking enough, and earning money for his creativity and hardwork, is all right? There may be a thin line, but there IS a line. Nothing justifies plagiarism, I repeat, nothing. The links to similar questions can always be given in editorials, but you can’t just copy exact questions, not from SPOJ, not from CF, not from Russian judges, not from anywhere.

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@meooow I felt TOTALLY the same way about the above points. ‘Problems have poor stories’ was one of the weirdest points. After reading that point, I was like,“What?”. “You are seriously going to mention THAT as a reason why top programmers don’t come to Codechef??” Top programmers don’t care that much about the story…

The starting few paragraphs and points in his answer felt highly relevant,but towards the end, I personally felt that he tried to go out of his way to insult Indians in the answer…

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Overall his answer did bring out many relevant points and the purpose of this post was to bring to our attention and to understand and work on those points. Many of his points may ACTUALLY be how people from other countries feel about us, who knows? So, that’s not good…

Please share the link when you answered my question . I may be didn’t have karma at that point of time but now I do and will be very glad to give a response to your help . Thanks for helping me out :slight_smile:

@ista2000 Codechef’s efforts in promoting IOI participation this time have been amazing!

Well if they upvoted me for my sarcasm ,I can’t help it . I will be happy if you cancel out those karma points if you wish . I was before and still helping people after that . I repeat again , I am not here for karma here and I didn’t knew my one comment will blow out of proportion .

And I am observing a lot of karma farming activities in recent days . Please look into them . I don’t want to specifically point out anyone and you know them too :slight_smile:

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The post is more directed to people upvoting and encouraging such posts. Yes, you are right when you say that you didnt know it will blow out of proportion. But still, I think you get my PoV as well. More or less, the karma from it will have to be nullified. We have to keep the list fair, thats a priority.

And as I said, please mail me if you are observing activities. I am not omnipresent lol. I need help from people in terms of bringing issues to my notice.

PS: You werent the only one, the entire thread is filled with such sarcastic responses. Dont feel pin-pointed out.

Great answer @vijju123 . Upvotes for sarcasm and humor will always be there. You can see that it is the case for CF and other platforms too. You can’t and shouldn’t stop that. But yeah, irrelevant, nonsensical and dramatic posts should be discouraged. I hope that international coders too come and contribute on CC. I hope that the homepage also shows recent questions, so that relevant and genuine doubts don’t go unanswered.

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@trashmaster I can’t find it now, it maybe someone else. Don’t worry, it doesn’t matter to me much anyway.

Point is, if we encourage such things to this deal, then people will be more focused on making sarcastic posts rather than genuine contribution. We must make sure that genuine reward is the only thing getting highest recognition. Else, malpractice will creep in.

CF and CC’s voting system cannot be compared, since one is casual while other has a reward system.

I am not ALL against them, but I will say “Things within limits are OK, but when they cross the limits, we must control them”.

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And I want to point out that there are some questions floating now on discuss where you can get an upvote by the question poster just by commenting any random thing like I agree with you . There is a practice going on for give and take .

Please report the issue to me in detail @trashmaster , in mail.

here- https://discuss.codechef.com/questions/113329/help-september-challenge-chef-and-digit?page=1#113330 :slight_smile:

Thank you akash for upvoting. By the way nevermind @trashmaster. Sorry for my mistake, it was @striverlearner.

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I salute your patience even i saw that question but the answer by bohdan was helllllll long so i decided not to read that :p. I know codechef has some issues but it is a Non-Profit organisation and as per this codechef is doing wonderful job just give it a thought they pay the winners of long contest a good amount they pay good amount to setters and editorialists inspite of being a NPO So as far as issues regarding plagariasm and other are concerned it must be taken care no doubt.

Just because they may not have taken strict action in the past against this, as Bohdan mentions, people now have this view that Codechef is happy in paying setters who have copied questions. This has made it to lose a lot of its credibility among the international community.

@akashbhalotia , better example would be “thats more like saying JEE is cakewalk without even looking at the syllabus.”

(Chem syllabus is enough for people to pee their pants :slight_smile: )

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I didn’t mean that, not every question here is copied. maybe one or two in a month!

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