ACM ICPC 2018 Amritapuri unfair results

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#3

Where to find capping size for each institution in amritapuri website ? @aryanc403


#4

Where is the cap? Is this a joke?

  • International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad - 17 Teams
  • IIT Bombay - 16 Teams
  • IIT Madras - 16 Teams
  • IIT Roorkee - 13 Teams
  • Many more colleges with 10+ Teams in the selection list

Is this selection fair?
What is the cap that they have put? Do they just want colleges from the higher tier to participate?


#5

To all those complaining on if the selection criteria is unfair should really reflect on themselves. The teams getting selected there were in Top 400, and had worked their backsides off for the regionals. You people are cribbing that selection on basis of merit is unfair? Is the some kind of joke or what? If you dont have enough merit to get selected by this years rules then its completely YOUR fault, stop trying to snatch chances of teams who worked had to go for onsite rounds, got ranks in top 100 but were second from their institute. Perhaps if you redirect this energy to practicing you might actually be under top 100 next time :slight_smile:


#6

They should’ve updated the Selection criteria as based on merit before the results were declared.That would’ve helped


#7

No offence,

but I believe Amritapuri has does a great job changing the selection criteria.


People on higher ranks are definitely more deserving teams for the onsite.


and to make it fair they have set a cap for no, of teams from a college. For how long were we supposed to compromise over quality of teams just for maximizing the quantity of colleges.


kudos to Amritapuri, Hope every Region follows the same in the future ICPC events


#8

My friend had contacted amritapuri. They said the cap was 25.

Their exact reply


#9

The capping in last year onsite regional selection was 20. It is evident from https://icpc.baylor.edu/regionals/finder/AMP-2017/standings .

But the same cap for this year’s contest has turned out to give favor to top tier institutions. The cap size should have been updated given this year’s unusual online round. Even if they’d would have selected those teams solving 2 question this year that’d have been reasonable but they have even selected students solving 1 question only from IITs and IIITs. If you are selecting those teams from a college who are capable to solve more than 1 question and that number is quite large then why would want to select those who were able to solve only 1 question from that same place. This clearly violates what is written on their website “Selection of teams is according to the rank and those who have solved most number of problems are given priority. There will be a cap on maximum number of teams selected from one single institution.”

This has led to a very biased selection and there are some not so popular colleges which if given a little push and encouragement could probably excel. But no, everyone wants to go only for top tier institutions. This is very heart breaking.

Also, the email id button on their website is not working. There is no post on their facebook page(which btw is not accepting messages) regarding this year’s online or onsite regionals. Their twitter page has last post of 2008. So there is no way to communicate them. And now seeing here -ve upvotes on questions like this, which are needed to be addressed is even more heartbreaking :frowning:


#10

The site says the total number of slots is 250,but how come 279 teams are selected?


#11

You didn’t got selected because of this rule because you don’t deserve.
Or more specifically, someone else deserved more.
IIT BOMBAY -16 TEAMS IIT ROORKEE -15+ TEAMS ? IS THIS FAIR?
Yes. It’s not their fault that they got admitted in IITs.
It’s your fault that you haven’t worked hard ( or smart ).

P.S : Even I didn’t got selected. And that’s fair.


#12

"Select the top ranked team from each distinct school or institute.

Arrange all these top ranked teams with respect to their performance in the Preliminary Round.
Select teams from the top as long as the Onsite Contest slots are available and the list is not exhausted.

In case it is found that the number of selected teams in this process is less than the available slots, remove selected teams from
the Rank List and repeat"

what’s your excuse for this?


#13

What about Kolkata region ? They have the different criteria or same as of amrita ? Cap = 25?..


#14

My question for people who are saying we don’t deserve to be in regionals- If you can’t even top in your own college how come you are being deserved?

No offence


#15

Teams registering for Amritapuri based on previous years selection criteria be like:

Ganga bol kar sala nali me kuda diya

P.S: I appreciate the merit based selection criteria but it should have been conveyed before registration, so that teams chose regionals accordingly.


#16

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#17

Why dont they mention directly that teams from tier-1 and tier -2 colleges will only be selected? This will be fair enough right?


#18

Extract from their webpage -

Selection is based on the rank only. To maximize participation from maximum institutions, there will be a cap for teams from one institution.
Onsite fee payment shall be made on or before 20th of November 2018.```

#19

Cap is 20 here.


#20

To maximize participation from maximum institutions - here is your answer!


#21

Compare us with other regionals, no of unique teams in our regional are more than any other regional in India.


#22

cap = 0
for( auto college : set of unique colleges)
cap = max(cap,college.filter(rank<=437).size())

print cap