To keep itself relevant, Codechef must conduct only short contests now

eternityishan · February 17, 2020, 8:45am

I suggest you to do codeforces, you’ll actually realise where you actually stand. Plus won’t take much of your time like 2 hours a day, that much time a professional spends on coffee break every two days at job

mcsinyx · February 17, 2020, 1:23pm

As mentioned, I’m careless about where I stand or any kind of competitiveness. It’s just for pure fun. In the last year long div 2 is full of math/puzzle kind of problems (as @ashukr97 mentioned), which are fun to solve but could barely validate anything, which your point is. I used to be a student with a CP dream like many here, and now it’s just for the nostalgia.

It’s quite difficult for many of us to dedicate a whole 3 hours at midnight on anything that we’re not aiming to get, and for me, it’s CP. But in 10 days I can be arranging 30 minutes every now and then and that’s completely fine.

If the problem is the cheaters, then we need to try to solve it, not to blame the format. I agree that having separate ratings (or no ratings at all) for long challenge might help. CP is about skills, and something one does in 10 days does not prove anything other than dedication. The ranking during contest can be kept to maintain the fun, but the rating system is seemingly misunderstood and abused by some and thus should be reconsidered.

babangain · February 17, 2020, 1:51pm

I agree there are issues. But, Long challenge is designed to encourage users to learn new concepts & help beginners to get started. So, making 3-5 questions hard doesn’t make much sense.

babangain · February 17, 2020, 1:54pm

Can you send list of users who are buying?
I will sell next time. My motivation will pump up by 1000% if I get money by selling.

prabhat_7 · February 17, 2020, 1:57pm

Omg:rofl:
Seriously?
Kon h wo aadmi jo paiso k liye ye kr rha h?
Shit i missed it.
I had also done 5 question. That means i would have earned 500 rupees. Shit.

nihith123 · February 17, 2020, 2:02pm

Are you serious?

babangain · February 17, 2020, 2:18pm

It depends upon the amount of money.

rds_98 · February 17, 2020, 2:19pm

I wish there was some Admin over here.

anon73162591 · February 17, 2020, 2:19pm

What would you do anyways for 7 $ charge more, i guess 10$ at least

nihith123 · February 17, 2020, 2:19pm

nihith123 · February 17, 2020, 2:49pm

What 10$ ??

prabhat_7 · February 17, 2020, 3:32pm

7 dollar will definitely bring 2 happiness(beer).
startups should not think of huge success in starting.

karan_221 · February 17, 2020, 4:42pm

Challenge question was too easy

eternityishan · February 17, 2020, 5:18pm

I dont have to send, they’ll contact you

ssrivastava990 · February 17, 2020, 5:27pm

I did 7.5 LMAO…
me to ameer ho jata (jisme CHEFRAIL to me 1000 me bechta )

eternityishan · February 17, 2020, 5:33pm

prabhat_7 · February 17, 2020, 5:36pm

Arey bhai bhai bhai bhai…

babangain · February 17, 2020, 6:46pm

thor1234 · February 18, 2020, 1:41pm

I disagree.
Allow me to present my point of view.
The relevance of a website is ordained by the interests of the users. There will always be people in all countries who genuinely

Want to learn algorithms and DS
Want to get a job through hiring challenges
Who just want to get better in cp for say stars or putting it as a cool achievement on their resume or for fun.

Now this means the website must be effective.
And I think codechef is.

No one will question you when you say, there are a lot of people who cheat.

But the amount of people who genuinely do it through sheer hard work and will power are much more than the wrong-doers.

Would you decide to close every shop’s business just because a robbery occured in another shop?
Codechef and other sites are strict enough in their plagiarism checks and there is admittedly room for improvement and they are working things out but just stopping long for that isn’t right imho because

Long challenges provided two weekends so everyone whether he’s a student or a professional gets a chance to devote a few days to something they love . I’ve started long months ago a few days late when I was working and still managed to squeeze a few submissions in .
If someone is not that good at short challenges, he has more time to think and hone his skills in long. If you want to get better fast, you must be able to first solve the problem ( If you can do it slowly, you can do it quickly, someone get the reference pls)
You learn much more in long challenges. The first problem is cakewalk, and gradually gets harder and most longs are well balanced so not a huge difficulty gap like short ones.
The editorials are insanely good. Sometimes you can learn more from the code of someone who’s really good at his craft. @vijju123 , @ssjgz , @tmwilliamlin are all really really good at explaining hard problems.
They’re just so goddamn fun to participate!

And to top it all off, it’s a unique challenge format that has a huge learning curve for people of all skill levels
Feel free to disagree with me, haha

Off topic but I just saw @anon73162591 is yellow now and @sudheerays123 is 4 star , well deserved!

thor1234 · February 18, 2020, 1:51pm

Nothing but personal preference. People gravitate towards things that capture their fantasy.
Personally, I’ve participated in a few short contests when I was starting out, I just liked long challenges a lot better because of the longer time to think and wider variety of problems to tackle and I want to really get better at long and solve all problems in my division atleast once

I’ve heard the argument people who do short are better numerous times . Just think both require different skill sets.
Don’t you think people should be allowed to decide in what they want to shine and invest their time.