Well, maybe I am alone in this, but I’d prefer to keep long challenges rated with some folks cheating rather than simply stop long challenges so that there isn’t cheating at all. Just solution seems worse than the problem - if we want to eradicate all cheating on Codechef, one way would be to stop all contests on this platform, but hopefully that’s not what anyone wants.
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Consider upsolving problems from short contests, I think the quality of hard problems from short contests is one of best out there.
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You’re saying this because you’re a high rated guy and cheating won’t affect you,but try to view it from the perspective of someone who persistently tries for 10 days and then finds himself dying on the leaderboard, I hope you understand how frustrating could it be.
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I absolutely get that it’s frustrating, I just don’t agree with the solution. If it’s too frustrating for someone, they can only write short contests if they like (presumably less cheating). I personally really enjoy spending 10 days on very hard problems, learning and exploring a lot in the process. It’s very frustrating for me that this fun is being taken out.
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IMO they don’t have enough problems for Div1 long
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I thought so too, but not even once in few months?
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I think the reason long challenges are unrated is because they don’t want average problem set to decide ratings for div1.
How would it be if one rule is made like the the long challenge will be rated for only those users whose number of participations in short rated contests (from begin)is greater than or equal to number of participated longs? (else they can participate but it will be unrated for those!)
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I know that some folks here think everyone has to do short contests to “prove” their worth, but I strongly disagree with that - I personally find long contests much fairer as it gives a lot of time to think deeply about very complex problems and to really show what you can do, instead of a short time where there are lots of variables (speed of writing code, needing more time to find solutions etc). I also find that usually problems are designed to be simpler (and often way less interesting) as they’re meant to be solved in couple hours as opposed to 10 days.
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That’s what CP means by default. Best solution imo would be to have a separate long challenge rating which won’t contribute to one’s CP rating calculation, but it seems to be a hard feature to implement
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Even if they make long challenges unrated, they should introduce more short contests. Only 2 rated contests per month is too less.
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Yeah I know, and that’s what used to differentiate Codechef from all others - having the long challenges. For short contests, in all honesty Codeforces seem to have better platform and more frequent contests too. I also realize I’m in a minority here, just trying to understand the rationale and state my points too just in case. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
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I have always asked for this. Half of the problem of cheating in long will be resolved
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yes i agree on this.
yes. I agree its not the best solution. I hope they are taking this time when div 1 and 2 are unrated to plagiarize bad participants.
This is the only way it would work. And this is beyond stupid. They have provided no reason to not run MOSS. even if there is a lag of months. They can still run MOSS month by Month and declare the moss results.
I guess this is because of 2 reasons.
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First Doing moss by month and not in collective months can result in irregular ratings depending on how ELO Rating works
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Finally CP is famous and they are trying to keep users on the platform. May Be sell courses
Now Before you judge me ask this. CCDSAP Has been around for how long and knowing its hard how many people went for the certification. Certification is hard to sell. Courses May not be
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I hope so. But Bad things are always around the corner when you think you are winning. Also @admin is quite silent on this matter. I am pretty sure People have mailed to help@codechef for so long. I myself have done this for 3 months now. Atleast necessary action should have been taken against them.
There MOSS Team incompetency is starting to suk at this point now
So does this mean my Long Challenge rating is frozen forever ? Because the last 4 month long challenges were all unrated.
The thing is since I am now a working professional I cannot take part in short contests. Long contest’s gives freedom of time to solve the problem at my own time and convinence.
One thing I can suggest is to keep long contest’s rated but keep them as a seperate rating and let it not affect the overall rating.
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Is there really a big problem to participate in short contests on weekends? It’s like only 3 hours and then it’s over.
As for the current long contest, my main concern is that I’m not sure if I have enough spare time to participate in it seriously (with the intention to get a good rank in the scoreboard). How many hours total do people usually spend on a single long contest?
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To do good in short contest, you need daily practice, upsolving and training to keep yourself in shape.
There are people who can do good in short contest even after a long break, but majority of the people will loose their speed and accuracy if they stay away from CP.
Long contests are great in that way, you don’t have to rush and code and you can code whenever /wherever u want, it can be at breakfast table, bedroom, metro etc.
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Since it is rated only for Div. 3, why are you expecting Div. 1 rated problems in them? We all know why’re Long Challenges for Div.1 and Div.2 are unrated, better not raise such sensitive topics again and again.
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