REMOVE PENALITY or CHANGE JUDGE FOR FIRST QUESTION (DISCSHOP)||ACM ICPC19

Not it hasn’t, they will never be able to give back the valuable time we wasted on that silly problem during the contest, while we could have used it on another question.

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Yep that’s true tho but still something is better than nothing

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More precisely, allow submissions with leading zeroes submitted before problem statement updation

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Even if the first solution is rejudged, it cannot bring back the time which have spent unnecessarily on the first question. By wasting more than 1 hour on the first question, it broke out morale and we also lost precious time. We were able to solve 3 questions finally with no chance of qualifying. If the issue did not occur, we could have got more time for other questions. A blunder on such a serious contest is completely unacceptable.

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dude seriously
weak test cases is still a secondary problem
for first problem there was only penalty
but many people were not able to solve the problem cause we know where our test cases was failing
it completely costs us 1 point which is infinitely times more important than some penalty

To Mr Prakhar,

Well man i have to say that this right here is discussion and we are given rights to express our feelings about the contest. I read the rules beforehand and kinda felt that they were little too complicated, so therefore i expressed my concern. But my main objective was to remove time penalty of question 1.

solution should be rejuded
solutions like 004 and 4 should be considered correct rather than removing penalty for all people who have solved the problem with wrong logic

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Guys I have opted for Pune regional, Our rank was around 2500 but we topped in our college. Is there any slim chance of qualifying?

Actually we were the only team!

To Sarthak,

Yah man it definitely was codechef fault’s. I would explain myself briefly if you are that stupid too understand yourself.

First of all the site wasn’t working properly and no pages were opening. I could see submissions happening all around but the page with questions was still not working. Dont you think that it’s bit impartial.

And second of all, our team read the test cases, but the leading zeroes line was bit misleading too.
Everyone would have their doubts who have sound knowledge of English and grammar.

And third yah we asked and read in the comments section but it was too late. The page itself was taking time too much of time to load earlier.

And that’s all i have to say in my defense. FYI Please man mind your tongue too by the way. This is Internet and not your hostel.

I think yes, you will qualify

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i could feel being a student of top iit myself. solved 4 that too even without much penalty but dont even have a distant chance of qualifying

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yes, i also got two penalties because of that and also lost too much time because it was confusing.
I commented on the question raising the problem and after 20 minutes it got resolved and at that time almost 1000 teams has successfully submitted. Yes codechef should remove the penalties.
@admin

I get that many people had submitted their solution without even checking the sample test cases.That’s why they never knew that the leading zeroes in the answer need to be discarded in the output. One of my teammates made the same mistake, which cost us one penalty. We then waited until we were sure our solution was correct before making another submission.

What I don’t get is why some teams have more than one WA’s for the first problem ? It’s clear that a single WA costs you 20 minutes.Were you trying your luck or what ?

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Not checking sample input output is a big big mistake. I don’t think they should consider removing penalties in that case.
It just takes 10 secs and will save you from 20 mins penalty.
Also why didn’t people ask in comments section if they had an ambiguity about leading zeroes. I think they forgot to remove leading zeroes and hence they got penalties.

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They clearly show in the test case 104 gives 4 by removing 1 so clearly understood by it. Accepted in one go :smile: thanks Codechef for this problem. It made more chances for my team for the regionals.

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Exactly. It’s not entirely CC’s fault. Ambiguity in the problem statement is usually cleared up by the sample test cases. My teammates don’t do a lot of CP, so it’s understandable. But what about experienced coders with a rating of 3* and above complaining about the first question ? Blameshifting is not acceptable.

Like this one. If you have doubts, ask them in the comments. Why submit your solution and try your luck ? Also, I don’t think these people matched their code’s output with the sample test cases. If they did, they wouldn’t be in this position. And even after checking the test cases, you decided to submit the solution thinking that ‘maybe codechef judge will accept both’, you need to familiarize yourself with how these online judges work.

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Frankly, they have a point.

Whether leading 0 is allowed or not cannot be cleared by the sample cases, because then there are multiple answers this case. Just because sample mentions 4 instead of 04 is not a strong argument that leading 0's are not allowed. It could be just one of the many answers which setter’s solution prints.

These things are expected to be clarified in the problem statement explicitly.

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Is anyone able to login through their icpc credentials ?

No not able to login

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