How about replacing long challenge with several short contests?

[codechef2k19]

Yes, you are absolutely right.

[zappelectro]

This suggestion is pretty interesting and though I doubt this will happen (replacing LC), I suggest you read Long Challenge problems two days before the end, then you get two days to solve them and immediate editorials :))

[anon92364889]

And if you try that stunt, your rating will screw up, because you gave only 2 days, vs genuine people + cheater people giving their 10 days.
Be practical atleast.

[sayan_1999]

Well,what I was thinking that simply make Long Challenges unrated. Codechef wants us mainly to learn new concepts and apply that in Long Challenges. Also beginners need time to come up with solutions and so Long Challenges provides ample time for that. But learning does not need to be equated with rating. Solving a tough problem over ten days only helps you grow your thinking skills and not a measure of how better and fast problem solver you are. Making unrated will surely reduce plagiarism cz people wont be able to show off their ratings on linkedin which is what they do cheating for. The main purpose is to learn. So, people who really are interested to solve the problem ,they shall still flock to take part in Long Challenges and so participation will never really be an issue.

Hope, my post garners some attention from Codechef.

[udayan14]

I seriously think that Long challenges should be modified. Maybe have a separate rating or just keep it ranked for div2. Long challenges as they currently stand have a lot of flaws.

[suman_18733097]

Here’s something you can read and finally, conclude that Codechef will never do it.

It's all on you Codechef

@admin I have seen threads on Users voting for making the Long Challenges unrated. And Codechef admin replying they will not be unrated. Then how can we reduce the cheating in long challenges? Well, I have some tips, which will actually be helpful in reducing Cheating in Long Challenges. Before going through them, let us observe some things happening around: Solutions are shared in Telegram groups. If any challenge gets more than 200 submissions by the end of 4th day of contest, then no dou…

It is one of my favourite posts, you should read it.

[suman_18733097]

And you know something, Admin doesn’t like one tagging him (LOL ). He discarded the thread after the author of thread tagged Admin. So, basically, nothing’s gonna happen, otherwise, Admin would have replied, at least. And after Galen Colin raised his voice against this issue, the thread was opened again. Which, I feel, Codechef Admin gives Importance to Credibility of Speaker ( 7*).

[rajawatlks]

Trust me then no more than 1000 coders will participate in the contest.

What motivates the coders to participate in contest is that their rating and ranking.
they want to secure their rating and improve their ranking . That’s they made effort till the end of the contest.

You can see the participation in unrated contest you will get to know what i want to say.

[jitha_lol]

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[ishaan_007]

You are absolutely right. Coders are motivated by rating and ranking so some people instead of learning they use wrong methods to achieve that. Long challenges just gives them opportunity to believe that it is not important to learn in order to have nice rating.

[admin]

Maybe you should understand the basic features of the forum you are using before completely misunderstanding another user’s comments and confidently jumping to conclusions.

There’s a difference between community flags leading to an automatic hiding of a thread, and a moderator/admin hiding/closing it manually.

[xccurate_2]

Well i am completely newbie in CP and planning to participate in my first long challenge. I think for beginners like me it would be a good start even if i would solve just 1 or 2 Q. I don’t completely agree with removing long challenges. If you want more short contests then why just stick to one platform. There are many others like codeforces, leetcode, binarysearch and atcoder. Let the cheaters cheat you cannot stop them on any platform.

[manoj_269]

Instead of replacing , making long challenges unrated might be an option, as there are not many long contests that will happen on cp sites.

Also i don’t think the no of participants will be a problem if they become unrated, as the quality of long challenges are good and you don’t even have to worry about rating changes as well as plagarism.

[divine_soul]

I completely agree with you.

[querty1234]

@ishaan_007

It is more fun to compete under time pressure, it actually forces participants to step out of their comfort zone by making them think fast with more accuracy

Have you ever solved the last 3-4 problems of Division 1 in a long contest? You can’t ask those problems in a short contest, sometimes you need to study research papers to solve them. If you ask such problems in short contest, I doubt anyone below Legendary Grand Master would be able to solve them in the duration. The problems are implementation heavy also and not suitable for short contests.

@ishaan_007

Now I understand long challenges mainly aim to motivate participant to learn new concepts and algorithms. But participant can learn them by solving questions post contest and applying that skill to future contests.

Maybe this can help for starting 2-3 problems, but I have mostly seen that the concepts used in last 2-3 problems are always new. So this won’t help.

[ssrivastava990]

Better idea : separate long rating and make 3 long per month , so that u have always some good programming question

also prize is only for div 1 , so no issues

[cubefreak777]

@querty1234

Have you ever solved the last 3-4 problems of Division 1 in a long contest? You can’t ask those problems in a short contest, sometimes you need to study research papers to solve them. If you ask such problems in short contest, I doubt anyone below Legendary Grand Master would be able to solve them in the duration. The problems are implementation heavy also and not suitable for short contests.

who’s stopping you from upsolving them ?

[querty1234]

I want to solve them in the contest and I have solved some before but it took me 1-2 days, need to refer research papers.
What’s the point of upsolving if you can’t solve it in a live contest.

[cubefreak777]

@querty1234

What’s the point of upsolving if you can’t solve it in a live contest.

Do you know what you’re saying? upsolving has no meaning according to you ? cause if that’s the case then you’re the next tourist buddy, sorry my bad

[querty1234]

@ssrivastava990

separate long rating and make 3 long per month , so that u have always some good programming question

Yeh badhiya tha guru!