It's all on you Codechef

anonym_chef · July 7, 2020, 5:32pm

seems codeforces trend of downvoting comments that never ends :-p

carre · July 7, 2020, 5:43pm

really?!

anon6647685 · July 7, 2020, 5:44pm

I know how it feels your idea of locking the ranklist is very nice.But one thing which i have understood is Codechef dont want to stop cheating in long challenges.This may sound harsh but its the truth.They are now only interested in the number of people participating and not on the fairness of quality.If codechef would be willing to improve then it would have atleast banned the telegram groups and removing the accounts of culprits.This long challenge is a complete mockery its better to switch to Codeforces where you can know your true potentials.Let cheaters keep on cheating in Codechef because Codechef dont want to teach the cheater a lesson.#Codechef_Please_Improve

div794 · July 7, 2020, 5:45pm

One should have the courage to post from his original CC account, if he really wants the public to listen to his suggestions.

div794 · July 7, 2020, 5:52pm

Why everytime, people want to rant about Long challenges. Why have you become so obsessed with rating. Believe me the problems in this month’s Long challenge are really good. Days spent in debugging, days spent in thinking about the correct approach, coding a new logic altogether after already spending days on a wrong approach, getting red on some testcases, thinking about them for hours, learning altogether a new data structure or efficient algorithm to optimise your program and finally getting AC. This is the real challenge. The journey to the AC, that green tick is worth it, when you finally see the green screen flash, it gives real satisfaction.
And those saying, better switch to CF, Codeforces and Codechef have a completely different pattern altogether. How often you have just given a random try on a problem on CF and then directly jumped to the editorial. Is that you call learning, maybe you AC a problem there but the learning part is very little by taking help from the editorial. The different paths to approach the problem, some of them may work and some of them might not, the thinking process matters, your debugging skills matter, this is what CC Long challenge helps you to cultivate. CF problems are based more on logic and tricks, so you can learn that part from there.

dardev · July 7, 2020, 5:54pm

I have an even better idea to prevent cheating. Stop all contests. No contest = no cheating.

Generally its the cheaters who are pissed off about “rampant cheating”. They wish only they had access to cheat material and no one else.

dardev · July 7, 2020, 5:55pm

Pretty sure the “original cc account” is full of cheated results. OP is either worried about his fellow cheaters judging him; or doesn’t want his previous submissions to be analyzed deeply.

mr_bluesky16 · July 7, 2020, 5:57pm

I think codechef is doing all in its power to stop cheating with making sure that genuine coders don’t loose faith in codechef. I joined codechef 3 months ago it’s a hell of a experience what I gained here and made better than my previous version . So, we should respect the platform, and talking about I know it’s unfair but cheaters don’t have progress So, eventually one day u will pass through them.So, don’t feel depressed buddy

humane · July 7, 2020, 6:03pm

I don’t know why people like you want everybody to move to codeforces just because you think your rating is better in codeforces than codechef.
People cheat in university exams where invigilator is present , I want to know what revolutionary technique you would adopt to stop cheating in an online contest?
Would banning telegram groups solve the situation?
Let’s assume telegram groups are banned , how will you ban whatsapp groups?
“REMOVING THE ACCOUNTS OF CULPRITS” how to find them?
The only way to overcome cheating is to be better than the cheaters.

hello_hell · July 7, 2020, 6:14pm

You are right. I’m not saying that I’m at advance level.Sometime I struggle with simple question. For question Chefina and Swaps I submitted 19 solutions and till 15th submission I didn’t even get partial score. Finally after investing more than 4 hours i got 100 pts. Then I checked submission list and many people were struggling in the same way( Again I’m not saying that I’m talented they aren’t, just talking about the question quality ). I was happy that the question was worth for investing 4 hours. But suddenly I saw that two of my friends who are 1 star and 2 start after participating in more then 7 contest they solved this question in One go. I can’t share what i felt.

hello_hell · July 7, 2020, 6:18pm

@humane Agree with you, but the problem is those who are helping them in cheating are better than us.

dardev · July 7, 2020, 6:19pm

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humane · July 7, 2020, 6:20pm

So the solution is we have to get better than them.

hello_hell · July 7, 2020, 6:21pm

@dardev And why you answered this to me ?

dardev · July 7, 2020, 6:22pm

Accident. Sorry!

dardev · July 7, 2020, 6:24pm

You should not have multiple accounts on CodeChef. If you have, then you should delete all except one.

@anon74515879
Have you have deleted your previous account before posting on this one?

ashish_kaur · July 7, 2020, 6:29pm

How would codechef block telegram groups? Even netflix tried to stop selling of their webseries on telegram, but did it stop? Its the people who need to understand. Codechef does how much it can do. They can only take action after MOSS

magnanimous_01 · July 7, 2020, 7:01pm

Exactly

magnanimous_01 · July 7, 2020, 7:13pm

To be honest, I feel like Long Challenges are really great. It gives you so much time to think about the solution, learn and implement it. It is a really good way to improve the skill of trying hard and not giving up before the solution is revealed at the end of the contest. These long challenges have helped me gain this ability and I’m pretty good at it and i feel many are. If you think that long challenges should be unrated, then you must also know that it certainly cannot be held too as solutions will be revealed almost everywhere during the contest and even users like us wont report anyone anymore and it will become a big mess and the whole point of long challenges to improve the learning curve disappears. If you think a person who is less experienced solve the question that y couldn’t solve, then just accept the fact that the person has thought more deeply spending more time than you and has got the solution and just move on. Caring about how other people cheat is not the way you improve. The main thing you should care about is how you are going to solve the next question and improve your rank, satisfying the thought that you beat some cheaters along the way. This is the only way you improve.

krishna_0_9 · July 7, 2020, 7:17pm

The best thing in my opinion would be to make the long challenge last for 4-5 days. Its sufficient time to go through all the questions and solve as per your limit. It will reduce cheating to a great extent.